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		<title>Comment on How Literary Criticism Arises by bpn (@turtlecasserole)</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2012/11/17/how-literary-criticism-arises/#comment-3188</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Mark. Came across this really pretty lovely account of John Barth&#039;s only conversation with Robert Frost &amp; thought you might enjoy. Leaving it here, at the top of the roll, apropos nothing but the Frost quote supra.

All the best,

http://books.google.com/books?id=k4H4xfCiUd0C&amp;pg=PA211&amp;dq=final+fridays+conversation+frost&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=I91JUaiMGZfk4AOF94HgAQ&amp;ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q=final%20fridays%20conversation%20frost&amp;f=false]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Mark. Came across this really pretty lovely account of John Barth&#8217;s only conversation with Robert Frost &amp; thought you might enjoy. Leaving it here, at the top of the roll, apropos nothing but the Frost quote supra.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=k4H4xfCiUd0C&#038;pg=PA211&#038;dq=final+fridays+conversation+frost&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=I91JUaiMGZfk4AOF94HgAQ&#038;ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&#038;q=final%20fridays%20conversation%20frost&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=k4H4xfCiUd0C&#038;pg=PA211&#038;dq=final+fridays+conversation+frost&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=I91JUaiMGZfk4AOF94HgAQ&#038;ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&#038;q=final%20fridays%20conversation%20frost&#038;f=false</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on WORDSWORTH&#8217;S “MUTABILITY” SONNET by Mark</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2009/10/01/there-is-one-sure-way-of-giving-freshness-and-importance-to-the-most-common-place-maxims%e2%80%94that-of-reflecting-on-them-in-direct-reference-to-our-own-state-and-conduct-to-our-own-past-and-futu/#comment-3183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t much care for the poem either, as you&#039;ll have seen. Sanctimony: yes.

Thanks for stopping by. I&#039;ve not had time to do much with this web-log in the last couple of months. I&#039;ll return, no doubt, come March.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t much care for the poem either, as you&#8217;ll have seen. Sanctimony: yes.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by. I&#8217;ve not had time to do much with this web-log in the last couple of months. I&#8217;ll return, no doubt, come March.</p>
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		<title>Comment on WORDSWORTH&#8217;S “MUTABILITY” SONNET by Teri Chace</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2009/10/01/there-is-one-sure-way-of-giving-freshness-and-importance-to-the-most-common-place-maxims%e2%80%94that-of-reflecting-on-them-in-direct-reference-to-our-own-state-and-conduct-to-our-own-past-and-futu/#comment-3182</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teri Chace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re around, since this is dated--it appears--three years ago. I am taking one of those &quot;motorcycle ride through a museum&quot; survey classes, Brit Lit 2, and was assigned Wordsworth&#039;s &quot;Mutability.&quot; It perplexed and troubled me so, that I went online to google what others might think of it...and here I am.

First of all, conveying his thoughts in a sonnet format--even if he diverges from it somewhat, not radically--seems a conservative choice. As a reader, I felt played, by the artifice of the format, but the juxtaposition of so-called opposites--it&#039;s so mannered. And I find the sanctimony you also detect and decry. Some frayed edges or real emotion--which he so loftily discourses on in the Preface to Lyrical Ballads--might&#039;ve helped.

Don&#039;t care for this poem. No sirree, I do not. Thank you for your thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re around, since this is dated&#8211;it appears&#8211;three years ago. I am taking one of those &#8220;motorcycle ride through a museum&#8221; survey classes, Brit Lit 2, and was assigned Wordsworth&#8217;s &#8220;Mutability.&#8221; It perplexed and troubled me so, that I went online to google what others might think of it&#8230;and here I am.</p>
<p>First of all, conveying his thoughts in a sonnet format&#8211;even if he diverges from it somewhat, not radically&#8211;seems a conservative choice. As a reader, I felt played, by the artifice of the format, but the juxtaposition of so-called opposites&#8211;it&#8217;s so mannered. And I find the sanctimony you also detect and decry. Some frayed edges or real emotion&#8211;which he so loftily discourses on in the Preface to Lyrical Ballads&#8211;might&#8217;ve helped.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t care for this poem. No sirree, I do not. Thank you for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Everything rides on—everything depends on—its own melting. by &#8220;There were no mirrors anywhere&#8221;: Notes on James Welch&#8217;s &#8220;Winter in the Blood&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2009/11/15/everything-rides-on%e2%80%94everything-depends-on%e2%80%94its-own-melting/#comment-3173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;There were no mirrors anywhere&#8221;: Notes on James Welch&#8217;s &#8220;Winter in the Blood&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8220;shyness,&#8221; the &#8220;prettiness.&#8221; And notice how loose the ligatures are in this attic, paratactic prose. I can shuffle the sentences around with no violence to the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;shyness,&#8221; the &#8220;prettiness.&#8221; And notice how loose the ligatures are in this attic, paratactic prose. I can shuffle the sentences around with no violence to the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on About this Weblog and its Administrator by Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Matt,

Good to hear from you, and thanks. I&#039;m doing well over here in Kyoto.

Reading &quot;The Ordeal&quot; to your son? I expect most young folk would find that quite an ordeal. But of course I&#039;m delighted.

Best regards to you &amp; your son,
Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>Good to hear from you, and thanks. I&#8217;m doing well over here in Kyoto.</p>
<p>Reading &#8220;The Ordeal&#8221; to your son? I expect most young folk would find that quite an ordeal. But of course I&#8217;m delighted.</p>
<p>Best regards to you &amp; your son,<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on About this Weblog and its Administrator by Matt Ullman</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/about/#comment-3171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Ullman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Mark! great to find you on here. I was a student of yours at Western Michigan, was thinking about you the other day reading through your book on Frost with my son. How have you been?
- Matt Ullman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark! great to find you on here. I was a student of yours at Western Michigan, was thinking about you the other day reading through your book on Frost with my son. How have you been?<br />
- Matt Ullman</p>
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		<title>Comment on Robert Frost &amp; the Squirrels of Ann Arbor by Robert Frost&#8211;Acquainted with the Night &#171; Железная &#124; Zheleznaya</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Frost&#8211;Acquainted with the Night &#171; Железная &#124; Zheleznaya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] neither wrong nor right. I have been one acquainted with the night. Frost in Ann Arbor, where he wrote this poem. His house was later moved to Greenfield Village. His great-grandson was one of my [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] neither wrong nor right. I have been one acquainted with the night. Frost in Ann Arbor, where he wrote this poem. His house was later moved to Greenfield Village. His great-grandson was one of my [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kinds of Rhyme: &#8220;She Walks in Beauty,&#8221; &#8220;Dulce et Decorum Est,&#8221; &#8220;Base Details,&#8221; &amp; &#8220;Blighters&#8221; by &#8220;At the Draper&#8217;s&#8221;: &#8220;the last new note in mourning. . .&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2011/05/08/kinds-of-rhyme-w-particular-attention-to-a-few-from-that-great-jangle-the-great-war/#comment-2929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;At the Draper&#8217;s&#8221;: &#8220;the last new note in mourning. . .&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 14:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] For another entry in The Era of Casual Fridays devoted to rhyming, click here. For other entries devoted to the poetry of Thomas Hardy, click here. Rate this:  Share [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Mad Judy&#8221; by Mark</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2012/05/21/mad-judy/#comment-2928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 04:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Annie!

Yes, how about those Corinthians!

It occurs to me that you&#039;ve laid the groundwork for a tale that Hardy might well have written, if he set himself the task.

My notion is that, seeing as how the speaker of the poem is unreliable, and that the only evidence he offers of Judy&#039;s insanity is her (locally unpopular) anti-natalism, we simply don&#039;t know that Judy&#039;s &quot;insane,&quot; and, in fact, have reason to suspect that she&#039;s not. Aberrant and odd she may be, and to her townsfolk a genuine curiosity. But no verbal details in the poem tell us anything about her other than that she thinks it probably better never to have been (given that the world is so stony a shore). Following such protocols as I follow, we can&#039;t say whether she was ever a mother, for example. We know her given name. We know she believes that coming into existence is a harm. And we know that the locals find that belief &quot;mad,&quot; and that they dismiss her by humoring her. (That is, they don&#039;t regard her as a peril.) That&#039;s all we know for sure.

But my protocols aren&#039;t the only ones.

Hope to be up New England way come late August early September.

Yours,
Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Annie!</p>
<p>Yes, how about those Corinthians!</p>
<p>It occurs to me that you&#8217;ve laid the groundwork for a tale that Hardy might well have written, if he set himself the task.</p>
<p>My notion is that, seeing as how the speaker of the poem is unreliable, and that the only evidence he offers of Judy&#8217;s insanity is her (locally unpopular) anti-natalism, we simply don&#8217;t know that Judy&#8217;s &#8220;insane,&#8221; and, in fact, have reason to suspect that she&#8217;s not. Aberrant and odd she may be, and to her townsfolk a genuine curiosity. But no verbal details in the poem tell us anything about her other than that she thinks it probably better never to have been (given that the world is so stony a shore). Following such protocols as I follow, we can&#8217;t say whether she was ever a mother, for example. We know her given name. We know she believes that coming into existence is a harm. And we know that the locals find that belief &#8220;mad,&#8221; and that they dismiss her by humoring her. (That is, they don&#8217;t regard her as a peril.) That&#8217;s all we know for sure.</p>
<p>But my protocols aren&#8217;t the only ones.</p>
<p>Hope to be up New England way come late August early September.</p>
<p>Yours,<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Mad Judy&#8221; by Annie</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2012/05/21/mad-judy/#comment-2925</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 18:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s what occurred to me after reading &#039;Mad Judy&#039; and your good analysis. Could she have been temporarily insane due to trauma related to birth or sexuality? Perhaps she had herself given birth to a still-born babe, an experience which would have surely put me in a psychological tailspin for at least a time. Perhaps she was raped (ditto). Perhaps both. Perhaps both, afterwhich she suffered severe postpartum depression that made her appear &quot;insane&quot; (I did not experience postpartum depression but have read that it can be horrendous, pushing women to have dark thoughts of all kinds, about themselves, their child, the purpose of life itself sometimes being questioned. As with any person who has been deemed &quot;insane&quot; or &quot;mad&quot; in history, Judy had a story, a psychological evolution propelling her to the state that inspired Hardy&#039;s poem. That he does not judge her or fear her or condemn her is to his credit, for that was and remains a rarity in our society. 

And how about those Corinthians!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what occurred to me after reading &#8216;Mad Judy&#8217; and your good analysis. Could she have been temporarily insane due to trauma related to birth or sexuality? Perhaps she had herself given birth to a still-born babe, an experience which would have surely put me in a psychological tailspin for at least a time. Perhaps she was raped (ditto). Perhaps both. Perhaps both, afterwhich she suffered severe postpartum depression that made her appear &#8220;insane&#8221; (I did not experience postpartum depression but have read that it can be horrendous, pushing women to have dark thoughts of all kinds, about themselves, their child, the purpose of life itself sometimes being questioned. As with any person who has been deemed &#8220;insane&#8221; or &#8220;mad&#8221; in history, Judy had a story, a psychological evolution propelling her to the state that inspired Hardy&#8217;s poem. That he does not judge her or fear her or condemn her is to his credit, for that was and remains a rarity in our society. </p>
<p>And how about those Corinthians!</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Must come and bide. . .&#8221; by &#8220;Mad Judy&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Mad Judy&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 15:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] entertained anti-natalism, see the reading of &#8220;To an Unborn Pauper Child&#8221; offered here. For a radio interview with anti-natalist philosopher David Benatar, click here. Peter Singer [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] entertained anti-natalism, see the reading of &#8220;To an Unborn Pauper Child&#8221; offered here. For a radio interview with anti-natalist philosopher David Benatar, click here. Peter Singer [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;&#8216;Peace upon earth!&#8217; was said. We sing it and pay a million priests to bring it. After two thousand years of mass, we&#8217;ve got as far as poison-gas.&#8221; by &#8220;Must come and bide. . .&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Must come and bide. . .&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 08:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of empathy,&#8221; as Hardy does in &#8220;The Wind Blew Words Along the Skies&#8221; or &#8220;The Blinded Bird.&#8221; They do not ponder the &#8220;non-identity problem&#8221; or puzzle out &#8220;the paradox [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of empathy,&#8221; as Hardy does in &#8220;The Wind Blew Words Along the Skies&#8221; or &#8220;The Blinded Bird.&#8221; They do not ponder the &#8220;non-identity problem&#8221; or puzzle out &#8220;the paradox [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Statements About &#8220;The wind blew words&#8230;&#8221; (Thomas Hardy) by &#8220;Must come and bide. . .&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Must come and bide. . .&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 08:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Past and Present. They do not &#8220;widen the circle of empathy,&#8221; as Hardy does in &#8220;The Wind Blew Words Along the Skies&#8221; or &#8220;The Blinded Bird.&#8221; They do not ponder the &#8220;non-identity problem&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Past and Present. They do not &#8220;widen the circle of empathy,&#8221; as Hardy does in &#8220;The Wind Blew Words Along the Skies&#8221; or &#8220;The Blinded Bird.&#8221; They do not ponder the &#8220;non-identity problem&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Everything rides on—everything depends on—its own melting. by &#8220;The most interesting writing is that which does not quite satisfy the reader.&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2009/11/15/everything-rides-on%e2%80%94everything-depends-on%e2%80%94its-own-melting/#comment-2886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;The most interesting writing is that which does not quite satisfy the reader.&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 11:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] put it to anyone that the advice offered above, if well heeded, would produce exactly such prose as Frost himself wrote (e.g., in &#8220;The Figure  a Poem Makes&#8221;): &#8220;A little guessing does [the reader] no [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] put it to anyone that the advice offered above, if well heeded, would produce exactly such prose as Frost himself wrote (e.g., in &#8220;The Figure  a Poem Makes&#8221;): &#8220;A little guessing does [the reader] no [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;I set so much on this Assumption. Now it&#8217;s failed.&#8221; by &#8220;The deadest thing alive enough to have strength to die&#8221;: Hardy&#8217;s &#8220;Neutral Tones&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2009/09/28/i-set-so-much-on-this-assumption-now-its-failed/#comment-2855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;The deadest thing alive enough to have strength to die&#8221;: Hardy&#8217;s &#8220;Neutral Tones&#8221; &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] into more ulterior, and chiefly speculative, precincts (anyone wishing to disembark now may do so here). Love itself does the deceiving, has its way with us all. Hardy has good company for the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] into more ulterior, and chiefly speculative, precincts (anyone wishing to disembark now may do so here). Love itself does the deceiving, has its way with us all. Hardy has good company for the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drummer Hodge and the Cape of Good Hope by Mark</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2012/04/26/drummer-hodge-and-the-cape-of-good-hope/#comment-2854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Henry,

So Herschel had done the work. Of course.

The Karoo, I expect, is not rich in worms, but the veldt, with its Drummer Hodge-infused kopje-crest, should have worms enough to turn the trick for that southern tree.

If I ever knew Dr. Johnson&#039;s cat was called Hodge, I&#039;d forgotten it.

I suppose &quot;Wessex&quot; does relatively little work for TH, in the sense you mean. On the other hand, The Dead Drummer is probably most affecting when read amongst its ten partner poems in the opening section of &quot;Poems of the Past and Present.&quot; They bear on it.

By the way: a happy birthday to you, Henry. The Pirate &amp; I expected to see you on a barstool in the Moon last night, but were bereft. The Immanent Will must have had other plans for you (or for us).

Yours,
Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry,</p>
<p>So Herschel had done the work. Of course.</p>
<p>The Karoo, I expect, is not rich in worms, but the veldt, with its Drummer Hodge-infused kopje-crest, should have worms enough to turn the trick for that southern tree.</p>
<p>If I ever knew Dr. Johnson&#8217;s cat was called Hodge, I&#8217;d forgotten it.</p>
<p>I suppose &#8220;Wessex&#8221; does relatively little work for TH, in the sense you mean. On the other hand, The Dead Drummer is probably most affecting when read amongst its ten partner poems in the opening section of &#8220;Poems of the Past and Present.&#8221; They bear on it.</p>
<p>By the way: a happy birthday to you, Henry. The Pirate &amp; I expected to see you on a barstool in the Moon last night, but were bereft. The Immanent Will must have had other plans for you (or for us).</p>
<p>Yours,<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drummer Hodge and the Cape of Good Hope by Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One question: how rich would the Karoo be in worms?

I&#039;d forgotten about this, and the extent of its influence on Brooke.  It&#039;s interesting how little work &#039;Wessex&#039; does for Hardy, compared with &#039;England&#039; for Brooke: the idea of home soil sustaining the transplanted stock - native airs and earths circulating in the lifeblood, as it were - is absent here.  So the &#039;growing into a southern tree&#039; introduces - in my eyes - a cognitive dissonance, working against the smoothness of the scansion in the final stanza.  (Reinforces a dissonance, I should say: isn&#039;t &#039;dusty loam&#039; oxymoronic?  Back to the worms.  I wonder whether the &#039;Green Imperialism&#039; literature, Richard Grove&#039;s book for example, might not provide some context.)    All is alienation.  Despite, as you point out, the dead man&#039;s being called Hodge.

The name also of Samuel Johnson&#039;s cat, &#039;who shall not be shot&#039;.

John Herschel had naturalized the southern constellations - claimed them for Empire - as far back as the 1830s (from the observatory he set up on the Cape).  But news had obviously not filtered through to Hodge.

Henry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question: how rich would the Karoo be in worms?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d forgotten about this, and the extent of its influence on Brooke.  It&#8217;s interesting how little work &#8216;Wessex&#8217; does for Hardy, compared with &#8216;England&#8217; for Brooke: the idea of home soil sustaining the transplanted stock &#8211; native airs and earths circulating in the lifeblood, as it were &#8211; is absent here.  So the &#8216;growing into a southern tree&#8217; introduces &#8211; in my eyes &#8211; a cognitive dissonance, working against the smoothness of the scansion in the final stanza.  (Reinforces a dissonance, I should say: isn&#8217;t &#8216;dusty loam&#8217; oxymoronic?  Back to the worms.  I wonder whether the &#8216;Green Imperialism&#8217; literature, Richard Grove&#8217;s book for example, might not provide some context.)    All is alienation.  Despite, as you point out, the dead man&#8217;s being called Hodge.</p>
<p>The name also of Samuel Johnson&#8217;s cat, &#8216;who shall not be shot&#8217;.</p>
<p>John Herschel had naturalized the southern constellations &#8211; claimed them for Empire &#8211; as far back as the 1830s (from the observatory he set up on the Cape).  But news had obviously not filtered through to Hodge.</p>
<p>Henry</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drummer Hodge and the Cape of Good Hope by Eve Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eve Richardson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Mark.  Yet again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mark.  Yet again.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent, Tim––your remarks on the revision of &quot;Grow up a Southern tree&quot; to &quot;Grow to.&quot; The possibility that Wordsworth&#039;s lyric lay somehow back of it hadn&#039;t occurred to me.  I had only in mind more immediate antecedents and several other poems of Hardy&#039;s (including &quot;Proud Songsters,&quot; which I didn&#039;t mention) that touch the theme of what I&#039;ve heard called, euphemistically, &quot;disincorporation.&quot;

I enjoyed working this one up. Lighting upon that old 17th century Dutch narrative about the Cape was a bit of luck. Interesting (though not surprising) to see how much the Cape figured in the histories TH relied on in writing &quot;The Dynasts&quot; (I ought to get round to that someday). Why do we (Americans anyhow) still call The Great War the first &quot;world&quot; war?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, Tim––your remarks on the revision of &#8220;Grow up a Southern tree&#8221; to &#8220;Grow to.&#8221; The possibility that Wordsworth&#8217;s lyric lay somehow back of it hadn&#8217;t occurred to me.  I had only in mind more immediate antecedents and several other poems of Hardy&#8217;s (including &#8220;Proud Songsters,&#8221; which I didn&#8217;t mention) that touch the theme of what I&#8217;ve heard called, euphemistically, &#8220;disincorporation.&#8221;</p>
<p>I enjoyed working this one up. Lighting upon that old 17th century Dutch narrative about the Cape was a bit of luck. Interesting (though not surprising) to see how much the Cape figured in the histories TH relied on in writing &#8220;The Dynasts&#8221; (I ought to get round to that someday). Why do we (Americans anyhow) still call The Great War the first &#8220;world&#8221; war?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drummer Hodge and the Cape of Good Hope by Tim Kendall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Kendall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terrific again. Thank you. This poem has always mattered to me. I&#039;ve seen it as a cruel wartime rewriting of Wordsworth&#039;s Lucy poems---&#039;Rolled round in earth&#039;s diurnal course / With rocks and stones and trees&#039;---which is in turn rewritten and rendered safe and benign by Brooke&#039;s &#039;The Soldier&#039;. I hadn&#039;t known that Hardy had originally written &#039;Grow up a Southern tree&#039;. &#039;Grow to&#039; is so much better. Does it mean towards or into? There&#039;s something horribly creeping about the transformation, whereas &#039;Grow up&#039; still gives the breast and brain a measure of identity and agency. And &#039;some&#039; is better than &#039;a&#039;, I think, because it contains an element of disgust, or at least contempt. This is &#039;some Southern tree&#039;---it&#039;s not important which.  

Thank you again. I&#039;m looking forward to the book!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific again. Thank you. This poem has always mattered to me. I&#8217;ve seen it as a cruel wartime rewriting of Wordsworth&#8217;s Lucy poems&#8212;&#8217;Rolled round in earth&#8217;s diurnal course / With rocks and stones and trees&#8217;&#8212;which is in turn rewritten and rendered safe and benign by Brooke&#8217;s &#8216;The Soldier&#8217;. I hadn&#8217;t known that Hardy had originally written &#8216;Grow up a Southern tree&#8217;. &#8216;Grow to&#8217; is so much better. Does it mean towards or into? There&#8217;s something horribly creeping about the transformation, whereas &#8216;Grow up&#8217; still gives the breast and brain a measure of identity and agency. And &#8216;some&#8217; is better than &#8216;a&#8217;, I think, because it contains an element of disgust, or at least contempt. This is &#8216;some Southern tree&#8217;&#8212;it&#8217;s not important which.  </p>
<p>Thank you again. I&#8217;m looking forward to the book!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making Statements About &#8220;The wind blew words&#8230;&#8221; (Thomas Hardy) by Drummer Hodge and the Cape of Good Hope &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drummer Hodge and the Cape of Good Hope &#171; The Era of Casual Fridays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Anyhow, the troops sent to South Africa did not (as Hardy has it) depart unattended. Vespasian, Cerdic, and Henry V had one thing in common: they embarked on invasions, with a view to conquer and subdue. So it is with the men setting out in 1899 to &#8220;argue in the self-same bloody mode.&#8221; Hardy is not so naive as to suggest the indifference of wars; none is altogether like another. But neither is he &#8220;jingo&#8221; or &#8220;imperial,&#8221; and he sees the Boer War for what it was: one of a number of very nasty squabbles among white folk—whether English, Dutch, Dutch-descended, French, or German—for African resources and African labor. None of the men embarking for the Cape of Good Hope, says Hardy later in the sonnet, is &#8220;dubious of the cause&#8221;; neither do any &#8220;murmur.&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t mean the cause wasn&#8217;t dubious. Hardy thought it was. (If anyone doubts the poet saw white supremacy as a problem, let him read, closely, &#8220;The wind blew words along the skies . . .&#8221;, reprinted and discussed here.) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anyhow, the troops sent to South Africa did not (as Hardy has it) depart unattended. Vespasian, Cerdic, and Henry V had one thing in common: they embarked on invasions, with a view to conquer and subdue. So it is with the men setting out in 1899 to &#8220;argue in the self-same bloody mode.&#8221; Hardy is not so naive as to suggest the indifference of wars; none is altogether like another. But neither is he &#8220;jingo&#8221; or &#8220;imperial,&#8221; and he sees the Boer War for what it was: one of a number of very nasty squabbles among white folk—whether English, Dutch, Dutch-descended, French, or German—for African resources and African labor. None of the men embarking for the Cape of Good Hope, says Hardy later in the sonnet, is &#8220;dubious of the cause&#8221;; neither do any &#8220;murmur.&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t mean the cause wasn&#8217;t dubious. Hardy thought it was. (If anyone doubts the poet saw white supremacy as a problem, let him read, closely, &#8220;The wind blew words along the skies . . .&#8221;, reprinted and discussed here.) [...]</p>
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		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2012/04/23/the-convergence-of-the-twain-thomas-hardys-titanic/#comment-2824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the latest new evil: opportunity, crisis, reality, and myth &#171; JRFibonacci&#039;s blog: partnering with reality]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;The Convergence of the Twain&#8221;: Thomas Hardy&#8217;s &#8220;Titanic&#8221; (eraofcasualfridays.net) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Convergence of the Twain&#8221;: Thomas Hardy&#8217;s &#8220;Titanic&#8221; by Mark</title>
		<link>http://eraofcasualfridays.net/2012/04/23/the-convergence-of-the-twain-thomas-hardys-titanic/#comment-2822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Tim. And my congratulations on the new book, which I have in hand now. A fine job the press did with it. As for those two hemispheres: not something I&#039;d much noticed (that phrasing I mean), though I may now get myself up for a postscript on your provocation.

Yours,
Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Tim. And my congratulations on the new book, which I have in hand now. A fine job the press did with it. As for those two hemispheres: not something I&#8217;d much noticed (that phrasing I mean), though I may now get myself up for a postscript on your provocation.</p>
<p>Yours,<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Convergence of the Twain&#8221;: Thomas Hardy&#8217;s &#8220;Titanic&#8221; by Tim Kendall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Kendall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is close reading at its best, Mark. Terrific work. I&#039;ve always puzzled over the &#039;two hemispheres&#039;. Specifically two, as if there might have been three or more. What are these hemispheres? Are they merely geographical, in which case is it not just a fancy way of saying &#039;the whole world&#039;? Or are they the &#039;twin halves&#039;, implying that in some crazy geometry a ship and  an iceberg might together constitute a perfect sphere? &#039;[C]onsummation&#039; is normally a bringing (or coming) together: a consummation devoutly to be wished. But the poem&#039;s own glorious moment of consummation---its climax---is jarring, as it acknowledges the breaking apart of the ship&#039;s and the world&#039;s &#039;intimate welding&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is close reading at its best, Mark. Terrific work. I&#8217;ve always puzzled over the &#8216;two hemispheres&#8217;. Specifically two, as if there might have been three or more. What are these hemispheres? Are they merely geographical, in which case is it not just a fancy way of saying &#8216;the whole world&#8217;? Or are they the &#8216;twin halves&#8217;, implying that in some crazy geometry a ship and  an iceberg might together constitute a perfect sphere? &#8216;[C]onsummation&#8217; is normally a bringing (or coming) together: a consummation devoutly to be wished. But the poem&#8217;s own glorious moment of consummation&#8212;its climax&#8212;is jarring, as it acknowledges the breaking apart of the ship&#8217;s and the world&#8217;s &#8216;intimate welding&#8217;.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 06:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you. Delighted to hear you enjoyed the essay.

Best,
Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. Delighted to hear you enjoyed the essay.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Mark</p>
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